![]() ![]() We may never know exactly how it happened so long ago and may have been a very rare fluke.” And many of these claims are of the vague form, “Somehow or other, this must have come together with this. Some of those authors may claim that empirical problems with their explanations will be solved someday - in a purely Darwinian framework, of course - but there is no evidence that such claims are anything but bluster (i.e.A few of those papers might actually outline some tentative explanation of how the immune system might have arisen via Darwinism, but none of those explanations stand up to detailed scrutiny.A lot has been written about immunology, and nearly all of those writers would happily agree that Darwinian, mutation-selection evolution generated everything in biology.I would summarize the situation with immunology and Darwinism as follows: All of those papers that they plopped down in some kinda grade-B movie drama - none of them had answers to that question. None of those papers - my point was there are no papers in the immunology literature which show how the immune system could evolve by random mutation and natural selection, and I still maintain that. Michael Behe: Well, it was a completely manufactured moment. Grothe: At one point you mentioned that there were no answers in evolution to how the immune system evolved, and then there was kind of this dramatic, gotcha moment where a big stack of papers on that subject were plopped down? HERE’S an interesting quote from Michael Behe’s interview on Point of Inquiry:ĭ.J. ![]()
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